87 ( +1 | -1 ) Rueben Fine did you know this ---THAT NOT ONLY WAS HE A FANTASTIC PLAYER/WRITER , JOINT WINNER AVRO 1938 WITH PAUL KERES, BUT ALSO AN ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC BLINDFOLD PLAYER??At the end of the of the 1945 radio match United States vs. the USSR, Mr. Fine played 4 games simultaneously ,blindfold at 10 second a move !!!!! he won all 4 games . one of the opponents that he beat was a 15 year old Robert Bryne , who later became one of America's strongest masters and eventually Grandmaster. so now my 2 questions , given that Mr. Fine was co-champion with Paul Keres AVRO 1938 - HOW OR WHY DID HE NEVER BECOME WORLD CHAMP?? 2- HOW COULD HE PLAY SUCH A HIGH LEVEL BLINDFOLD 10 SECOND A MOVE CHESS???? AND WIN SO MANY GAMES DOING IT . yours the bluebabygirl .. p.s. I know there will be people here that can answer these questions . I anxiuosly await their replies .ALL COMMENTS ARE WELCOME !!!!!!!!!
30 ( +1 | -1 ) to gambitnutyes but why give it up ??? must have been some fantastic reason !!!!! with him being that great a player !! I would rather give up my favorite cat than give up chess .ME NEVER NEVER !!can you tell what ,when, and why on his giving up ??? and maybe comment on number 2 , yours bluebabygirl
37 ( +1 | -1 ) v_glorioso12what you mean regular people???? i have always been a regular person. never knew i was anything but !!! I never talk down to people . I just ask questions and state my opinion like anybody else does . now do you care to comment on Rueben Fine . I am trying to find out all I can about him. but thanks for your previuos comment too , yours bluebabygirl
23 ( +1 | -1 ) If you ask me...Reuben Fine was a little off... Good chess player though. Come to think of it there have been a few of the greats that were a little off, take Fischer for example, I think Morphy too towards the end of his career.
25 ( +1 | -1 ) ...You know, to be such a high calibre chess player as Fischer and Fine, you need to be a little off. Imagine constantly studying and analyzing in such depth that you're aiming for a world championship.
That's enough to drive anyone crazy.
32 ( +1 | -1 ) chessnovice...I have to agree with you there. To possibly provide some insight BBG's question regarding why Fine left the chess world to pursue psychoanalysis: I believe Fine went into his chess career as a temporary source of income after finding the job market very poor during the depression...
60 ( +1 | -1 ) Just did a little research... Apparently WW2 disrupted international chess competition. So as a supporter the war, he did some work translating and some classified stuff. After the wars end he tried quite actively to organize "a championship chess competition of some sort" but finding little interest from chess authorities in taking action without delay and little money from sponsers, gave up and focused his energies on other things, among them psycology... he was asked to participate in later chess events but turned them down pretty much ending his career.
14 ( +1 | -1 ) Fred Reinfeldwas a strong player a former New York State Champion. Back in those days the NY State Championship was nearly as tough as the U.S. Championship.
7 ( +1 | -1 ) baseline and ReinfieldThanks for the info on Fred. Do you have a date on that championship?
54 ( +1 | -1 ) Reuben Fineall I can think of is, the 100 and 100 hours of reading/training thru basic chess ending. Today I can see, there is a lot of 1/2 points turned into full points in my favor, due to the knowledge of the basic principles in the endgame. I can warmly recommend players to study endgames on all levels.
Sorry bluebabygirl if this was a little of topic, to your heading of the thread. I got inspired by the mention of Fine :-))
Best wishes Cairo
97 ( +1 | -1 ) An almost unknown factDear bluebabygirl,
When my great compatriot Carlos Torre (yes, the guy that, in his 21st birthday, defeated ex-World Champion Emmanuel Lasker with a famous windmill combination in the Moscow Tournament in 1925) came to live in my city, many years ago, he played here a minimatch of two games against the great Reuben Fine. The outcome: +1-1.
The games were played, according to some very old players of our chess circle, in "El Círculo Mercantil Mutualista", a beautiful building where today we, the OTB players, compite in the local weekend tournaments.
Post data: I also agree with my friend cairo, study Fine's BCE is a great way to falling in love with the endgame phase of the game. It has many errata, but it's a treasure of knowledge. I think someone of the caliber of GM Pal Benkö or GM John Nunn could revise and correct this book, just to keep this great work up to date.
50 ( +1 | -1 ) blindfold chessto play blindfold chess isnt that hard, i can play 3 boards at once(my rating drops dramaticly), but all you have to do is have a good memory, if you have that then youll play just as well blindfolded as over the board. Alos i was thinking of this movie that came out in 2001 and was called the Lucin Defense(pardon my spelling) which is a very good movie that rivals searching for bobby fischer, is this in any way related to Rubin?
16 ( +1 | -1 ) to rubicoxMR, FINE PLAYED BLINFOLD CHESS AT 10 SECONDS A MOVE SIMULTANIOUS TOO 4 GAMES AT ONCE !!!! CAN YOU DO THAT ??? OR SAY ITS NOT HARD . I THINK LATER ON HE INCREASED IT TO MORE GAMES !! BBG
41 ( +1 | -1 ) ...His point wasn't that the time control was easy, but that playing chess blindfolded isn't as difficult as it would appear. Certainly 10 seconds per move would be difficult when playing 4 blindfolded games simultaneously - but the time control would be as difficult even without the blindfold. That's why Fine was a grandmaster, though... because he could do such amazing things with the chessboard.
11 ( +1 | -1 ) record for playing blindfoldedAnd one know what the record is for playing blindfold chess?
(with a respectable win to loss ratio, offcourse)
23 ( +1 | -1 ) buddy2I read it in Larry Evans column in Chess Life & Review sometime ago. Sorry I don't remember all the details just that he was a former NY State Champ in the 30's and that his best books have been long out of print.
18 ( +1 | -1 ) George Kowtanowski...played a 40-game blindfold simultaneous. I don't know if that's a record, nor do I know the win/loss ratio. The ratio was probably pretty good, I just don't know the specific numbers.
21 ( +1 | -1 ) Koltanowski played a 34-board blindfold simul, scoring +24=10. Najdorf holds the record, I think, playing 45 boards at once, with a scsore of +39=4-2, but I think Koltanowski's opposition was stronger than Najdorf's.
15 ( +1 | -1 ) Miguel Najdorfplayed 45 simultaneous blindfold games in Brazil 1947 - won 39, lost 2 & drew 4. That was recognised as a world record - don't know if it still stands.
3 ( +1 | -1 ) Sorry atrifixdidn't see your post.
4 ( +1 | -1 ) 45 games blindfolded..OMG - some people really are so amazing..
21 ( +1 | -1 ) to h86mwell there are some really amazing players on this SITE!!!!!!! However Im not one of them but you can look them up and several have threads on the forum !!! and they are very nice too !! yours bluebabygirl
14 ( +1 | -1 ) fine was a average good player. he wrote better than he played . now how many touchdowns did he score last year. later