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premium_steve 63 ( +1 | -1 )
What is e4, d6; d4, f5? I thought i posted about this before, but i don't see my topic anywhere... so i guess i mustn't have.

Anyway, what is this opening called?
And, is there any line that makes this opening immediately bad for black? Or is it playable?

i was looking at this: 1. e4, d6; 2. d4, f5; 3. PxP, BxP; 4. Qf3...... where white wins at least black's b-pawn maybe the a-pawn as well? umm....or maybe black would simply bring back his bishop, instead of giving up the pawns. i don't know what's best here. can anyone help with this or some other lines of this opening? thank you very very much :)

-steve
honololou 8 ( +1 | -1 )
ECO A82… Dutch, Balogh defense by transposition. Don't know
anything about it though.
honololou 4 ( +1 | -1 )
I found only 131 games… in my database that had this position.
calmrolfe 17 ( +1 | -1 )
3.Nc3 Your suggested 3.PxP is a satisfactory response but personally I would prefer to bring out my Queenside Knight to c3, with the aim of re-taking with the Knght on e4 after Black plays PxP.
premium_steve 64 ( +1 | -1 )
cool... yeah, i don't like too much when people play 3. Nc3. (i rather when white plays Bd3 :D where i would play PxP and then bishop would take pawn and then Nf6.)

for Nc3 i usually play ...PxP and then there is NxP and i play ...Bf5.
for this and other lines there's usually a weak square on e6 and a weak entire a2-g8 diagonal realy when i play... but maybe black can get away with it.

i am more interested in the line i mentioned in my topic since i don't know how to save material. i'm wondering if there is something i am missing. here it is again: 1. e4, d6; 2. d4, f5; 3. PxP, BxP; 4. Qf3......... and at this point i would like to know black's best options!
premium_steve 12 ( +1 | -1 )
oops better than bringing the bishop back would be the move: 4...Qc8. i didn't see that one. maybe THIS is ok for black
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premium_steve 0 ( +1 | -1 )
this line, i mean 1.e4,d6; 2.d4,f5; 3.PxP,BxP; 4.Qf3,Qc8
premium_steve 22 ( +1 | -1 )
question for calm rolfe or anyone else too what do you think black should play against the 3.Nc3 move?
i'd play the third and fourth moves like this: 3.Nc3, PxP; 4.NxP, Bf5; and 4.Ng3 maybe or 4.Bd3 move?

i guess there are a lot of different ways this can play out right?