justice4catz
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1. Nh3 2. f3 3. Nf2 Krazy kat.
Anyone play it?
Puss
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cairo
♡ 32 ( +1 | -1 )
If my memory serves me right, it is called: Amars opening.
It is suppose to lead to real "bloody" play :-))
Maybe other players here on GK, have more knowledge of this rather obscure opening!
Best wishes
Cairo
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keiserpaul
♡ 49 ( +1 | -1 )
Puss 1.Nh3 is the Amar and 1.Nh3 d5 2.g3 e5 3.f4 is the Amar Gambit (very nice and tactical play, I tried it a few times, but could never win against a higher rated player !).
But what you means is the Hippopotamus, an opening playable with both colours. The first eleven moves are f3, g3, Nh3, Nf2, e3, c3, d3, Be2, Nd2, Nf1 and b3.
The Crazy Cat is nearly the same , but includes the fianchetto of the Kings bishop.
I have experimented with all these, but it takes too much time to put the Knight on f2, and it is not better there then on f3, on the contrary. If you are an attacking player I cannot recommend it.
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cairo
♡ 26 ( +1 | -1 )
Thanks keiserpaul for that fine clarifying, your sure knows your gambits :-))
Best wishes
Cairo
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atrifix
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I always thought that 1. Nh3 d5 2. g3 e5 3. f4 was called the Paris Gambit, but I'm not certain.
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justice4catz
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puss again Mr Wall (don't know who he is) has these...
AMAR OPENING; PARIS OPENING 1 Nh3
AMAR GAMBIT; PARIS GAMBIT 1 Nh3 d5 2 g3 e5 3 f4 Bxh3 4 Bxh3 exf4 5 O-O
and...
KRAZY KAT O; CRAZY CAT OPENING 1 Nh3 e5 2 f3 d5 3 Nf2
also these games elsewhere...
White tries an unusual opening with the usual results. The final blunder only makes White's pain less.
KRAZY KAT OPENING [A00]
W: Arthur Stobbe (1835)
B: David Hillery (2274)
1999 Golden Knights
1. Nh3 e5 2. g3 d5 3. Bg2 Nf6 4. f4 e4 5. Nf2 Bc5 6. e3 h5 7. d4 exd3 e.p. 8. Nxd3 Bb6 9. Nc3 Bg4 10. Bf3 d4 11. Na4 Nc6 12. Nxb6 axb6 13. e4 Nxe4 14. Bxg4 hxg4 15. Qxg4 Qf6 16. 0-0 Kf8 17. b3 Qh6 18. Qe2 Nxg3 19. Qg2 Nxf1 20. Kxf1 Qxh2 21. Bb2 Ra5 22. a4 Rah5 23. c3 Rh3 24. Nf2 Qxf4 25. Qxh3 Rxh3, White resigns.
i've seen another line where white does the same knight manouevre on the queen side.
(Bill walls site at - www.geocities.com/siliconvalley/lab/7378/opening.htm
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ironpawn
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About Bill Wall Bill Wall is a chess author, published mainly by Chess Enterprises, Inc. out of PA. I have a book of his on the Orangutan Opening (1.b4). From looking at the inside cover, his other books include several collections of miniatures, the Larsen's Openning, Owen's Defense, and Grob's Attack. He seems to prefer unorthodox possitions/opennings because I am unfamiliar with any of those listed (including the Krazy Kat before this post).
Happy Playing!
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werwolf
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I'm not mad I think that in chess is too many interesting openings to play something like that
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justice4catz
♡ 13 ( +1 | -1 )
cats are not dull Why you knock this opening? Why you say it not interesting too. Dodgy openings make for a better game against lesser opposition.
Puss
werwolf
♡ 32 ( +1 | -1 )
because of...... Against strong opponent play ing that kind of opening is'nt interesting because of fact that he won't be cathched in cheap traps, and will get at least equal position. I could understand playing such unortodox openings with black pieces but white has atvantage of first move and i prefer to use it.
keiserpaul
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werwolf Unorthodox play is not the equivalent of cheap traps. Or can you tell me what the trap is in 1.Nh3 2.f3 3.Nf2 ?
"Ridicule can do much .. but one thing is not given to it, to put a stop permanently to the incursion of new and powerful ideas" (A. Nimzowitch).
vaillancourt
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lolll well 1.Nh3 is certainly an ugly move, 2.f3 3.Nf2 dont do anything powerfull for sure.
werwolf
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keiserpaul If there is no any traps then why must white play it? Black equalises without any problems. New idea, but is it powerful????? I dont think so.
dorisia
♡ 88 ( +1 | -1 )
1.f3 Krazy Kat's Opening can also be considered to be a variation of Gedult's Opening, which has several variations, among them:
1) f3/Nh3/Nf2 = Krazy Kat (or Amar)
2) 1.f3 d5 2.e4 = Gedult gambit
3) 1.f3 followed by 2.Kf2 = Hammerschlag or Fried Fox
The latter has made furore on chess servers when a very strong player, who according to Nigel Short must have been none other than Bobby Fischer, adopted it in several games against Grandmasters. Here is a win against Zhong (I suppose this is the same Zhong who won the Corus secondary GM tournament, 2003):
[White "guest381"]
[Black "zhong"]
[Result "1-0"]
[ICCResult "Black resigns"]
[BlackElo "2908"]
[Opening "Gedult's opening"]
[ECO "A00"]
[Time "01:42:43"]
[TimeControl "180+0"]
1. f3 d5 2. Kf2 g6 3. Ke3 Bg7 4. Kf4 Qd6+ 5. Ke3 Qb6+ 6. d4 e5 7. Kf2 exd4 8. Na3 Nf6 9. e3 dxe3+ 10. Bxe3 c5 11. Bb5+ Bd7 12. c4 O-O 13. Ne2 Bxb5 14. cxb5 d4 15. Bd2 Nbd7 16. Qb3 Rfe8 17. Nc4 Qe6 18. Nf4 Qe7 19. Rhe1 Qf8 20. Nd3 Rxe1 21. Rxe1 Re8 22. Rxe8 Qxe8 23. Nd6 Qe7 24. Nxb7 Nh5 25. Qa4 Nb6 26. Qxa7 {Black resigns} 1-0 [Event "ICC 3 0 u"]
Weird, isn't it?
keiserpaul
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werwolf Is there a White opening in which Black has no option to equalize ? Does the Ruy Lopez gives White a definitive advantage ? If not, what is your point ? After Nh3 f3 Nf2 Black has a solid position and no weaknesses. So why should we not option for these original moves and explore new lines instead of playing always the same opening moves that has been played million times again and again.
werwolf